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twoleftfeet 12:17 Thu Mar 14
Can someone explain Bloody Sunday to me?

Why are British soldiers possibly going to be prosecuted when IRA murderers were allowed to get off free from prosecution by the Blair government?

What’s the difference?

Northern Sold 12:18 Thu Mar 14
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It's a great song by U2...

zebthecat 12:21 Thu Mar 14
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Fill your boots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RTJ4vHoYUs

HairyHammer 12:22 Thu Mar 14
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A bunch of Irish men got shot at and killed by British soldiers, when there was no reason to kill them.

These day's not one person would have been shot at.

twoleftfeet 12:41 Thu Mar 14
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A bunch of civilians were blown up in pubs by IRA members when there was no reason to kill them.

, 12:46 Thu Mar 14
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)

DukeofDevo 12:54 Thu Mar 14
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A few IRA got caught in the crossfire when Martin McGuinness was roaming the streets with a Tommy Gun

wanstead_hammer 12:59 Thu Mar 14
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It’s what my old man used to say when the pubs shut at 2 and there were no shops open.

Irish Hammer 1:31 Thu Mar 14
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Before this turns into a thread of people celebrating that the ‘micks’ were killed etc etc as it always does.


Bloody Sunday was a tragic day in which Irish people lost their lives where they should not have. It was greatly down to the Armed forces on the day reacting wrongly and shooting people when their either was no real high threat and/or other measures could have been used.

But, like all things there are two sides to a situation.

Yes the British soldiers did act very wrongly, and destroyed Irish families via the loss of life that day. And as they were highly trained soldiers they would have been trained to react different to the situation they faced and the loss of lives should not have happened. All the inquiry’s etc have shown that very grave mistakes were made.

However. It must be recognised that the area they were operating in was a hotbed of killings from both sides, and the incumbent Irish forces were by no means honourable or discerning in their deeds and actions. Many British soldiers were killed simply because they were doing their jobs and wearing the uniform that wasn’t issued to them. The stress and threat that they and their families were constantly subjected to must have been horrendously difficult.

As a result of Bloody Sunday there was a large swell of support for the IRA and associated groups and they made sure they greatly benefited by the mistakes that the British forces made that fateful day. The lost of lives in both sides over the following years was tragic and senseless and the motives for either side became lost in the fog sometimes.

I am a very proud Irishman, but like anyone sane I am very saddened to see loss of life over things such as this, and I apply that to both sides who lost loved ones. Young men and women and both sides taken from their families so young and so harshly.

It is one very tragic episode in decades of tragic episodes. The actions of the so called Irish Republican Army in England are a source of great shame to any true Irish man, planting bombs in pubs for of innocents is not war. It is murder. Thankfully the world has changed and we can live in harmony and friendship.

May they all sosa i síocháin.

gank 1:32 Thu Mar 14
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You don't fight terrorism with terrorism.

Normannomates will know what I'm talking about.

arsene york-hunt 2:24 Thu Mar 14
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I used to think what a bunch of cunts the Irish must be, fighting over which church they attend. So fucking medieval.

Claret Badger 2:50 Thu Mar 14
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children died

ak37 8:28 Thu Mar 14
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Alan Partridge : 'Sunday Bloody Sunday'. ... You wake up in the morning, you've got to read all the Sunday papers, the kids are running round, you've got to mow the lawn, wash the car, and you think "Sunday, bloody Sunday!".

Agent Scud 9:08 Thu Mar 14
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This is a few years old but sums up most Northern Irish people nicely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxpYW_w5pgo

goose 9:22 Thu Mar 14
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Very dark day if any of them face criminal charges.
Wouldn’t surprise me though, not in this country.

Peterboroughiron 10:05 Thu Mar 14
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Well put Irish hammer

Russ of the BML 10:25 Thu Mar 14
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Very good post Irish Hammer. As an Englishman it's good to hear an Irishman's take on it and a show of solidarity. Those years when I was growing up as a kid watching the news seeing my mum and dad almost in tears were hard to understand. As I got older I obviously become a lot more educated on the troubles.

This is dodgy ground in my opinion though. There will be outcry of the soldiers were charged. Yes, mistakes were made, but they were done so in an awful situation. As Irish says the place was a hotbed of killings and those soldiers were obviously very fearful for their lives.

For me, the problem is that those soldiers made mistakes by killing people. The IRA made no mistakes when they killed people. That was deliberate slaughter. Pre-mediated murder. And those people were set free by the British Government for the sake peace.

In my opinion that was enough. To go this was step further and start charging the soldiers is a step too far.

ray winstone 10:28 Thu Mar 14
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Irish Hammer 1:31 Thu Mar 14

Lily Hammer 11:12 Thu Mar 14
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Irish Hammer 1:31 Thu Mar 14

That is very well said, and all there is to say on the matter.

I'm proud to call myself and Englishman, and I'm proud of my Irish blood; most of my blood is Irish.

You can't have Declan back though, no matter how much peace and love there is, these days.

twoleftfeet 11:19 Thu Mar 14
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The IRA made no mistakes?

Try telling that to the hundreds of innocent men, women and children killed by them.

Unless of course a pregnant woman is a legitimate target?

If I had been patrolling that extremely volatile area and if I had seen my comrades shot then I to would have had a twitchy trigger finger.

twoleftfeet 12:50 Thu Mar 14
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One patsy put up for prosecution.

Shambolic.

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